Podcast
Jun 10, 2026
Pure Signal | Drive Tech Forward with an Operating-Model First Approach

Credera is excited to announce the release of a new Pure Signal episode: "Drive Tech Forward with an Operating-Model First Approach."
On this episode
The biggest barrier to transformation isn't the technology; it's the humans who have to live with it. On this episode of Pure Signal, hosts Ryan Medellin, Kevin Erickson, and Jake Carter sit down with Cale Maxwell, CEO of Credera Oceania, to talk through what leading change really looks like when change fatigue is already setting in.
Cale shares why operating model design should come before technology investment, how to build a measurement framework that keeps transformation funded, and what his ongoing master's in neuroscience has taught him about why change initiatives stall. You'll also hear a candid exchange on how the Oceania market approaches AI adoption differently from the US and UK, and whether that caution is a feature or a liability.
For leaders navigating AI adoption, organizational integration, or the pressure to move faster than your people are ready for, this episode offers a grounded, globally-informed perspective. Technology doesn't work until people make it work. The question is whether you're investing accordingly.
Outline
00:00 Intro
00:43 Cale Maxwell's path to Credera Oceania
04:39 Neuroscience and its relevance to transformation
06:18 The Oceania market
08:50 The case for an operating model first approach
12:07 The human side of change
14:08 Budgeting for change management
22:21 Data silos and the intelligence gap
24:21 Getting clear on measurement to unlock further investment
31:06 Leading through uncertainty
36:00 Neuroscience applied to day-to-day
37:33 Why traditional change frameworks still apply
41:32 Closing thoughts
Pure Signal
In Pure Signal, North America CEO Kevin Erickson, Global Chief Innovation Officer Jake Carter, and Manager in Marketing Solutions Ryan Medellin cut through the noise to bring you what matters in tech.
Together they’re digesting the biggest developments in tech, data, AI, and beyond to bring you the strategy-focused insights you need to position your business for an uncertain future.
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